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9 Nevertheless it is better for us first to attack things perceptible to the senses,in which EmpedoclesCf. Diels-Kranz, Frag. der Vorsok. 5, i, p. 319, frag. B 21, part of which is quoted below in 949 f. and StratoSee Fritz Wehrli, Die Schule des Aristoteles, Part V. frag. 49. and the StoicsCf. Mor. 952 c, 1053 f; von Arnim, S.V.F. ii, pp. 140 f. locate the substances that underlie the qualities, the Stoics ascribing the primordially cold to the air, Empedocles and Strato to water; and someone else may, perhaps, be found to affirm that earth is the original substance of coldness.As Plutarch himself: see below, 952 c ff. (chapters 17-22). But let us examine Stoic doctrine before the others.