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403 Socrates. But possibly that may not be right; possibly two lambdas were originally pronounced instead of the sigma, because the god knew (εἰδότος) many (πολλά) things. Or it may be that from his shaking he was called the Shaker (ὁ σείων), and the pi and delta are additions. As for Pluto, he was so named as the giver of wealth (πλοῦτος), because wealth comes up from below out of the earth. And Hades—I fancy most people think that this is a name of the Invisible (ἀειδής), so they are afraid and call him Pluto.
403 Hermogenes. And what do you think yourself, Socrates?
403 Socrates. I think people have many false notions about the power of this god, and are unduly afraid of him. They are afraid because when we are once dead we remain in his realm for ever, and they are also terrified because the soul goes to him without the covering of the body. But I think all these facts, and the office and the name of the god, point in the same direction.
403 Hermogenes. How so?
403 Socrates. I will tell you my own view. Please answer this question: Which is the stronger bond upon any living being to keep him in any one place, desire, or compulsion?
403 Hermogenes. Desire, Socrates, is much stronger.
403 Socrates. Then do you not believe there would be many fugitives from Hades, if he did not bind with the strongest bond those who go to him there?
403 Hermogenes. Of course there would.
403 Socrates. Apparently, then, if he binds them with the strongest bond, he binds them by some kind of desire, not by compulsion.
403 Hermogenes. Yes, that is plain.
403 Socrates. There are many desires, are there not?
403 Hermogenes. Yes.
403 Socrates. Then he binds with the desire which is the strongest of all, if he is to restrain them with the strongest bond.
403 Hermogenes. Yes.
403 Socrates. And is there any desire stronger than the thought of being made a better man by association with some one?
403 Hermogenes. No, by Zeus, Socrates, there certainly is not.

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