Thesauros Literature Philosophy Κρατύλος

Κρατύλος

Κρατύλος Plato
438 Socrates. No, not in the least, my friend. Now let us drop this and return to the point at which we digressed. A little while ago, you may remember, you said he who gave names must have known the things to which he gave them. Do you still hold that opinion, or not?
438 Cratylus. I do.
438 Socrates. And you say that he who gave the first names also knew the things which he named?
438 Cratylus. Yes, he knew them.
438 Socrates. But from what names had he learned or discovered the things, if the first names had not yet been given, and if we declare that it is impossible to learn or discover things except by learning or ourselves discovering the names?
438 Cratylus. I think there is something in what you say, Socrates.
438 Socrates. How can we assert that they gave names or were lawgivers with knowledge, before any name whatsoever had been given, and before they knew any names, if things cannot be learned except through their names?
438 Cratylus. I think the truest theory of the matter, Socrates, is that the power which gave the first names to things is more than human, and therefore the names must necessarily be correct.
438 Socrates. Then, in your opinion, he who gave the names, though he was a spirit or a god, would have given names which made him contradict himself? Or do you think there is no sense in what we were saying just now?
438 Cratylus. But, Socrates, those that make up one of the two classes are not really names.
438 Socrates. Which of the two, my excellent friend; the class of those which point towards rest or of those that point towards motion? We agreed just now that the matter is not to be determined by mere numbers.
438 Cratylus. No; that would not be right, Socrates.

nav.navigate

nav.identity

common.settings

common.language
TR EN
common.theme