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Socrates. Then, my dear friend, must not the law-giver also know how to embody in the sounds and syllables that name which is fitted by nature for each object? Must he not make and give all his names with his eye fixed upon the absolute or ideal name, if he is to be an authoritative giver of names? And if different lawgivers do not embody it in the same syllables, we must not forget this ideal name on that account; for different smiths do not embody the form in the same iron, though making the same instrument for the same purpose, but so long as they reproduce the same ideal, though it be in different iron, still the instrument is as it should be, whether it be made here or in foreign lands, is it not?
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Hermogenes. Certainly.
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Socrates. On this basis, then, you will judge the law-giver, whether he be here or in a foreign land, so long as he gives to each thing the proper form of the name, in whatsoever syllables, to be no worse lawgiver, whether here or anywhere else, will you not?
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Hermogenes. Certainly.
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Socrates. Now who is likely to know whether the proper form of shuttle is embodied in any piece of wood? The carpenter who made it, or the weaver who is to use it ?
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Hermogenes. Probably the one who is to use it, Socrates.
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Socrates. Then who is to use the work of the lyre-maker? Is not he the man who would know best how to superintend the making of the lyre and would also know whether it is well made or not when it is finished?
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Hermogenes. Certainly.
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Socrates. Who is he?
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Hermogenes. The lyre-player.
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Socrates. And who would know best about the work of the ship-builder?
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Hermogenes. The navigator.
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Socrates. And who can best superintend the work of the lawgiver and judge of it when it is finished, both here and in foreign countries? The user, is it not?
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Hermogenes. Yes.
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Socrates. And is not this he who knows how to ask questions?
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Hermogenes. Certainly.
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Socrates. And the same one knows also how to make replies?
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Hermogenes. Yes.