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Σοφιστής Plato
248 Str. But, most excellent men, how shall we define this participation which you attribute to both? Is it not that of which we were just speaking?
248 Theaet. What is that?
248 Str. A passive or active condition arising out of some power which is derived from a combination of elements. Possibly, Theaetetus, you do not hear their reply to this, but I hear it, perhaps, because I am used to them.
248 Theaet. What is it, then, that they say?
248 Str. They do not concede to us what we said just now to the aboriginal giants about being.
248 Theaet. What was it?
248 Str. We set up as a satisfactory sort of definition of being, the presence of the power to act or be acted upon in even the slightest degree.
248 Theaet. Yes.
248 Str. It is in reply to this that they say generation participates in the power of acting and of being acted upon, but that neither power is connected with being.
248 Theaet. And is there not something in that?
248 Str. Yes, something to which we must reply that we still need to learn more clearly from them whether they agree that the soul knows and that being is known.
248 Theaet. They certainly assent to that.
248 Str. Well then, do you say that knowing or being known is an active or passive condition, or both? Or that one is passive and the other active? Or that neither has any share at all in either of the two?
248 Theaet. Clearly they would say that neither has any share in either; for otherwise they would be contradicting themselves.
248 Str. I understand; this at least is true, that if to know is active, to be known must in turn be passive. Now being, since it is, according to this theory, known by the intelligence, in so far as it is known, is moved, since it is acted upon, which we say cannot be the case with that which is in a state of rest.
248 Theaet. Right.
249 Str. But for heaven’s sake, shall we let ourselves easily be persuaded that motion and life and soul and mind are really not present to absolute being, that it neither lives nor thinks, but awful and holy, devoid of mind, is fixed and immovable?

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