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Σοφιστής Plato
222 Str. Yes, If man is a tame animal; but make any assumption you like, that there is no tame animal, or that some other tame animal exists but man is a wild one or that man is tame but there is no hunting of man. For the purpose of our definition choose whichever of these statements you think is satisfactory to you.
222 Theaet. Why, Stranger, I think we are a tame animal, and I agree that there is a hunting of man.
222 Str. Let us, then, say that the hunting of tame animals is also of two kinds.
222 Theaet. How do we justify that assertion?
222 Str. By defining piracy, man-stealing, tyranny, and the whole art of war all collectively as hunting by force.
222 Theaet. Excellent.
222 Str. And by giving the art of the law courts, of the public platform, and of conversation also a single name and calling them all collectively an art of persuasion.
222 Theaet. Correct.
222 Str. Now let us say that there are two kinds of persuasion.
222 Theaet. What kinds?
222 Str. The one has to do with private persons, the other with the community.
222 Theaet. Granted; each of them does form a class.
222 Str. Then again of the hunting of private persons one kind receives pay, and the other brings gifts, does it not?
222 Theaet. I do not understand.
222 Str. Apparently you have never yet paid attention to the lovers’ method of hunting.
222 Theaet. In what respect?
222 Str. That in addition to their other efforts they give presents to those whom they hunt.
222 Theaet. You are quite right.
222 Str. Let us, then, call this the amatory art.
222 Theaet. Agreed.
223 Str. But that part of the paid kind which converses to furnish gratification and makes pleasure exclusively its bait and demands as its pay only maintenance, we might all agree, if I am not mistaken, to call the art of flattery or of making things pleasant.
223 Theaet. Certainly.
223 Str. But the class which proposes to carry on its conversations for the sake of virtue and demands its pay in cash—does not this deserve to be called by another name?
223 Theaet. Of course.
223 Str. And what is that name? Try to tell.

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