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258 Soc. one of them anyhow, as you say, looks like me in his cast of countenance, and the other has the same name and appellation, which implies some sort of kinship. Of course we ought always to be eager to get acquainted with our relatives by debating with them. Now I myself had an argument with Theaetetus yesterday and have been listening to his answers just now, but I do not know Socrates in either way and must examine him, too. But let him reply to you now; my turn will come by and by.
258 Str. Very well; Socrates, do you hear what Socrates says?
258 Y. Soc. Yes.
258 Str. And do you agree?
258 Y. Soc. Certainly.
258 Str. There seems to be no objection on your part, and I suppose there should be still less on mine. Well, then, after the sophist, I think it is our next duty to seek for the statesman; so please tell me: should we rank him also among those who have a science, or not?
258 Y. Soc. Yes.
258 Str. Must the sciences, then, be divided as when we were examining the sophist?
258 Y. Soc. Perhaps.
258 Str. In that case, Socrates, I think the division will not be along the same lines.
258 Y. Soc. How will it be?
258 Str. Along other lines.
258 Y. Soc. Very likely.
258 Str. Where, then, shall we find the statesman’s path? For we must find it, separate it from the rest, and imprint upon it the seal of a single class; then we must set the mark of another single class upon all the other paths that lead away from this, and make our soul conceive of all sciences as of two classes. i.e. one class is to be separated and then all the rest are to be marked as one other class—the familiar division into two parts.
258 Y. Soc. This, Stranger, is now your affair, I think, not mine.
258 Str. And yet, Socrates, it must be your affair, too, when we have found the path.
258 Y. Soc. Quite true.
258 Str. Are not arithmetic and certain other kindred arts pure sciences, without regard to practical application, which merely furnish knowledge?
258 Y. Soc. Yes, they are.

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