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27 Soc. Now what is the next step in our argument, and what was our purpose in coming to the point we have reached? Was it not this? We were trying to find out whether the second place belonged to pleasure or to wisdom, were we not?

27 Pro. Yes, we were.

27 Soc. And may we not, perhaps, now that we have finished with these points, be better able to come to a decision about the first and second places, which was the original subject of our discussion?

27 Pro. Perhaps.

27 Soc. Well then; we decided that the mixed life of pleasure and wisdom was the victor, did we not?

27 Pro. Yes.

27 Soc. And do we not see what kind of life this is, and to what class it belongs?

27 Pro. Of course we do.

27 Soc. We shall say that it belongs to the third class; for that class is not formed by mixture of any two things, but of all the things which belong to the infinite, bound by the finite; and therefore this victorious life would rightly be considered a part of this class.

27 Pro. Quite rightly.

27 Soc. Well then, what of your life, Philebus, of unmixed pleasure? In which of the aforesaid classes may it properly be said to belong? But before you tell me, please answer this question.

27 Phi. Ask your question.

27 Soc. Have pleasure and pain a limit, or are they among the things which admit of more and less?

27 Phi. Yes, they are among those which admit of the more, Socrates; for pleasure would not be absolute good if it were not infinite in number and degree.

28 Soc. Nor would pain, Philebus, be absolute evil; so it is not the infinite which supplies any element of good in pleasure; we must look for something else. Well, I grant you that pleasure and pain are in the class of the infinite but to which of the aforesaid classes, Protarchus and Philebus, can we now without irreverence assign wisdom, knowledge, and mind? I think we must find the right answer to this question, for our danger is great if we fail.

28 Phi. Oh Socrates, you exalt your own god.

28 Soc. And you your goddess, my friend. But the question calls for an answer, all the same.

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