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Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ

Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ Plato
112 Soc. I will show you, in the following way. If I ask you which is the greater number, one or two, you will answer two?
112 Alc. Yes, I shall.
112 Soc. How much greater?
112 Alc. By one.
112 Soc. Then which of us says that two are one more than one?
112 Alc. I.
112 Soc. And I was asking, and you were answering?
112 Alc. Yes.
113 Soc. Then is it I, the questioner, or you the answerer, that are found to be speaking about these things?
113 Alc. I.
113 Soc. And what if I ask what are the letters in Socrates, and you tell me? Which will be the speaker?
113 Alc. I.
113 Soc. Come then, tell me, as a principle, when we have question and answer, which is the speaker—the questioner, or the answerer?
113 Alc. The answerer, I should say, Socrates.
113 Soc. And throughout the argument so far, I was the questioner?
113 Alc. Yes.
113 Soc. And you the answerer?
113 Alc. Quite so.
113 Soc. Well then, which of us has spoken what has been said?
113 Alc. Apparently, Socrates, from what we have admitted, it was I.
113 Soc. And it was said that Alcibiades, the fair son of Cleinias, did not know about just and unjust, but thought he did, and intended to go to the Assembly as adviser to the Athenians on what he knows nothing about; is not that so?
113 Alc. Apparently.
113 Soc. Then, to quote Euripides, Eur. Hipp. 352—σοῦ τάδ’, οὐκ ἐμοῦ κλύεις. the result is, Alcibiades, that you may be said to have heard it from yourself, not me,Eur. Hipp. 352 and it is not I who say it, but you, and you tax me with it in vain. And indeed what you say is quite true. For it is a mad scheme this, that you meditate, my excellent friend—of teaching things that you do not know, since you have taken no care to learn them.

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