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Soc. Then, on this showing, the same man is both bad and good.
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Alc. Apparently.
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Soc. Well, can you say that good men are also bad?
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Alc. No, indeed.
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Soc. But whoever do you mean by the good?
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Alc. I mean those who are able to rule in the city.
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Soc. Not, I presume, over horses?
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Alc. No, no.
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Soc. But over men?
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Alc. Yes.
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Soc. When they are sick?
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Alc. No.
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Soc. Or at sea?
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Alc. I say, no.
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Soc. Or harvesting?
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Alc. No.
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Soc. Doing nothing, or doing something?
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Alc. Doing something, I say.
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Soc. Doing what? Try and let me know.
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Alc. Well, men who do business with each other and make use of one another, as is our way of life in our cities.
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Soc. Then you speak of ruling over men who make use of men?
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Alc. Yes.
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Soc. Over boatswains who make use of rowers?
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Alc. No, no.
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Soc. Because that is the pilot’s distinction?
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Alc. Yes.
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Soc. Well, do you mean ruling over men who are flute-players, and who lead the singing and make use of dancers?
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Alc. No, no.
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Soc. Because, again, that is the chorus-teacher’s function?
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Alc. To be sure.
