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Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ

Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ Plato
126 Soc. And what of individuals? Is it not the same art?
126 Alc. Yes.
126 Soc. And it makes each single person agree with himself?
126 Alc. Yes.
126 Soc. And what art makes each of us agree with himself as to which is the longer, a span or a cubit? Is it not mensuration?
126 Alc. Of course.
126 Soc. And it makes both individuals and states agree with each other?
126 Alc. Yes.
126 Soc. And what about the balance? Is it not the same here too?
126 Alc. It is.
126 Soc. Then what is that agreement of which you speak, and about what? And what art secures it? And is it the same in an individual as in a state, when one agrees with oneself and with another?
126 Alc. Most likely.
126 Soc. Well, what is it? Do not flag in your answers, but do your best to tell me.
126 Alc. I suppose I mean the friendship and agreement that you find when a father and mother love their son, and between brother and brother, and husband and wife.
126 Soc. Then do you suppose, Alcibiades, that a husband can possibly agree with his wife about woolwork, when he does not understand it, and she does?
126 Alc. Oh, no.
126 Soc. Nor has he any need, since that is a woman’s pursuit.
126 Alc. Yes.
127 Soc. Or again, could a woman agree with a man about soldiering, when she has not learnt it?
127 Alc. Oh, no.
127 Soc. Because, I expect you will say again, that is a man’s affair.
127 Alc. I would.
127 Soc. Then, by your account, there are some pursuits belonging to women, and some to men?
127 Alc. Of course.
127 Soc. So in these, at any rate, there is no agreement between men and women.
127 Alc. No.
127 Soc. And hence no friendship either, if, as we said, friendship is agreement.
127 Alc. Apparently not.
127 Soc. So women are not loved by men, in so far as they do their own work.
127 Alc. It seems not.

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