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Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ

Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ Plato
128 Soc. Come then, what is taking pains over oneself— for we may perchance be taking, unawares, no pains over ourselves, though we think we are—and when does a man actually do it? Does he take pains over himself at the same time as over his own things?
128 Alc. I at least believe so.
128 Soc. Well now, when does a man take pains over his feet? Is it when he takes pains over what belongs to his feet?
128 Alc. I do not understand.
128 Soc. Is there anything you can name as belonging to the hand? For instance, does a ring belong to any other part of a man but the finger?
128 Alc. No, indeed.
128 Soc. And so the shoe also belongs to the foot, in the same way?
128 Alc. Yes.
128 Soc. And likewise clothes and coverlets belong to the whole body?
128 Alc. Yes.
128 Soc. Now when we take pains over our shoes, we take pains over our feet?
128 Alc. I do not quite understand, Socrates.
128 Soc. Well, but, Alcibiades, you speak of taking proper pains over this or that matter, do you not?
128 Alc. I do.
128 Soc. And do you call it proper pains when someone makes a thing better?
128 Alc. Yes.
128 Soc. Then what art makes shoes better?
128 Alc. Shoe-making.
128 Soc. So by shoe-making we take pains over our shoes?
128 Alc. Yes.
128 Soc. And over our foot too by shoe-making? Or by that art whereby we make feet better?
128 Alc. By that art.
128 Soc. And is it not the same one for making our feet as for making the whole body better?
128 Alc. I think so.
128 Soc. And is not that gymnastic?
128 Alc. Certainly.
128 Soc. So by gymnastic we take pains over our foot, but by shoe-making over what belongs to our foot?
128 Alc. Quite so.
128 Soc. And by gymnastic over our hands, but by ring-engraving over what belongs to the hand?
128 Alc. Yes.

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