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Soc. And we admit that the user and what he uses are different things?
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Alc. Yes.
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Soc. Then the shoemaker and the harper are different from the hands and eyes that they use for their work?
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Alc. Apparently.
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Soc. And man uses his whole body too?
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Alc. To be sure.
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Soc. And we said that the user and what he uses are different?
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Alc. Yes.
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Soc. So man is different from his own body?
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Alc. It seems so.
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Soc. Then whatever is man?
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Alc. I cannot say.
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Soc. Oh, but you can—that he is the user of the body.
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Alc. Yes.
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Soc. And the user of it must be the soul?
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Alc. It must.
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Soc. And ruler?
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Alc. Yes.
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Soc. Now, here is a remark from which no one, I think, can dissent.
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Alc. What is it?
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Soc. That man must be one of three things.
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Alc. What things?
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Soc. Soul, body, or both together as one whole.
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Alc. Very well.
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Soc. But yet we have admitted that what actually rules the body is man?
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Alc. We have.
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Soc. And does the body rule itself?
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Alc. By no means.
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Soc. Because we have said that it is ruled.
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Alc. Yes.