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696 Ath. And, as our argument asserts, the cause of this does not lie in luck, but in the evil life which is usually lived by the sons of excessively rich monarchs; for such an upbringing can never produce either boy or man or greybeard of surpassing goodness. To this, we say, the lawgiver must give heed,—as must we ourselves on the present occasion. It is proper, however, my Lacedaemonian friends, to give your State credit for this at least,—that you assign no different honor or training whatsoever to poverty or wealth, to the commoner or the king, beyond what your original oracleThe laws of Lycurgus. declared at the bidding of some god. Nor indeed is it right that pre-eminent honors in a State should be conferred on a man because he is specially wealthy, any more than it is right to confer them because he is swift or comely or strong without any virtue, or with a virtue devoid of temperance.
696 Meg. What do you mean by that, Stranger?
696 Ath. Courage is, presumably, one part of virtue.
696 Meg. Certainly.
696 Ath. Now that you have heard the argument, judge for yourself whether you would welcome as housemate or neighbor a man who is extremely courageous, but licentious rather than temperate.
696 Meg. Don’t suggest such a thing!
696 Ath. Well then,—a man wise in arts and crafts, but unjust.
696 Meg. Certainly not.
696 Ath. But justice, surely, is not bred apart from temperance.
696 Meg. Impossible.
696 Ath. Nor is he whom we recently proposedCp. Plat. Laws 689d. as our type of wisdom,—the man who has his feelings of pleasure and pain in accord with the dictates of right reason and obedient thereto.
696 Meg. No, indeed.
696 Ath. Here is a further point we must consider, in order to judge about the conferment of honors in States, when they are right and when wrong.
696 Meg. What point?
696 Ath. If temperance existed alone in a man’s soul, divorced from all the rest of virtue, would it justly be held in honor or the reverse?
696 Meg. I cannot tell what reply to make.

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