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197 SOC. Not at all, being the man I am; but I might if I were a real reasoner; if such a man were present at this moment he would tell us to refrain from these terms, and would criticize my talk scathingly. But since we are poor creatures, shall I venture to say what the nature of knowing is? For it seems to me that would be of some advantage.

197 THEAET. Venture it then, by Zeus. You shall have full pardon for not refraining from those terms.

197 SOC. Have you heard what they say nowadays that knowing is?

197 THEAET. Perhaps; however, I don’t remember just at this moment.

197 SOC. They say it is having knowledge.

197 THEAET. True.

197 SOC. Let us make a slight change and say possessing knowledge.

197 THEAET. Why, how will you claim that the one differs from the other?

197 SOC. Perhaps it doesn’t; but first hear how it seems to me to differ, and then help me to test my view.

197 THEAET. I will if I can.

197 SOC. Well, then, having does not seem to me the same as possessing. For instance, if a man bought a cloak and had it under his control, but did not wear it, we should certainly say, not that he had it, but that he possessed it.

197 THEAET. And rightly.

197 SOC. Now see whether it is possible in the same way for one who possesses knowledge not to have it, as, for instance, if a man should catch wild birds—pigeons or the like—and should arrange an aviary at home and keep them in it, we might in a way assert that he always has them because he possesses them, might we not?

197 THEAET. Yes.

197 SOC. And yet in another way that he has none of them, but that he has acquired power over them, since he has brought them under his control in his own enclosure, to take them and hold them whenever he likes, by catching whichever bird he pleases, and to let them go again; and he can do this as often as be sees fit.

197 THEAET. That is true.

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