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Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ

Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ Plato
111 Soc. You know that those who are going to teach anything should first know it themselves, do you not?
111 Alc. Of course.
111 Soc. And that those who know should agree with each other and not differ?
111 Alc. Yes.
111 Soc. But if they differ upon anything, will you say that they know it?
111 Alc. No, indeed.
111 Soc. Then how can they be teachers of it?
111 Alc. By no means.
111 Soc. Well now, do you find that the many differ about the nature of stone or wood? If you ask one of them, do they not agree on the same answer, and make for the same things when they want to get a piece of stone or wood? It is just the same, too, with everything of the sort: for I am pretty nearly right in understanding you to mean just this by knowing how to speak Greek, am I not?
111 Alc. Yes.
111 Soc. And on these matters, as we stated, they not only agree with each other and with themselves in private, but states also use in public the same terms about them to each other, without any dispute?
111 Alc. They do.
111 Soc. Then naturally they will be good teachers of these matters.
111 Alc. Yes.
111 Soc. And if we should wish to provide anyone with knowledge of them, we should be right in sending him to be taught by the many that you speak of?
111 Alc. Certainly.
111 Soc. But what if we wished to know not only what men were like or what horses were like, but which of them were good runners or not? Would the many still suffice to teach us this?
111 Alc. No, indeed.
111 Soc. And you have ample proof that they do not know this, and are not proficient teachers of it, in their not agreeing about it at all with themselves?
111 Alc. I have.
111 Soc. And what if we wished to know not only what men were like, but what healthy or diseased men were like? Would the many suffice to teach us?
111 Alc. No, indeed.
111 Soc. And you would have proof of their being bad teachers of that, if you saw them differing about it?
111 Alc. I should.
112 Soc. Well then, do you now find that the many agree with themselves or each other about just and unjust men or things?
112 Alc. Far from it, on my word, Socrates.

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