Thesauros Edebiyat Felsefe Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ

Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ

Ἀλκιβιάδης αʹ Plato
133 Soc. And if the soul too, my dear Alcibiades, is to know herself, she must surely look at a soul, and especially at that region of it in which occurs the virtue of a soul—wisdom, and at any other part of a soul which resembles this?
133 Alc. I agree, Socrates.
133 Soc. And can we find any part of the soul that we can call more divine than this, which is the seat of knowledge and thought?
133 Alc. We cannot.
133 Soc. Then this part of her resembles God, and whoever looks at this, and comes to know all that is divine, will gain thereby the best knowledge of himself.
133 Alc. Apparently.
133 Soc. And self-knowledge we admitted to be temperance. Above, Plat. Alc. 1.131b.
133 Alc. To be sure.
133 Soc. So if we have no knowledge of ourselves and no temperance, shall we be able to know our own belongings, good or evil?
133 Alc. How can that be, Socrates?
133 Soc. For I expect it seems impossible to you that without knowing Alcibiades you should know that the belongings of Alcibiades are in fact his.
133 Alc. Impossible indeed, upon my word.
133 Soc. Nor could we know that our belongings are ours if we did not even know ourselves?
133 Alc. How could we?
133 Soc. And so, if we did not so much as know our belongings, we could not know the belongings of our belongings either?
133 Alc. Apparently not.
133 Soc. Then we were not quite correct in admitting just now that there are people who, without knowing themselves, know their belongings, while others know their belongings’ belongings. For it seems to be the function of one man and one art to discern all three— himself, his belongings, and the belongings of his belongings.
133 Alc. It looks like it.
133 Soc. And anyone who is ignorant of his belongings will be similarly ignorant, I suppose, of the belongings of others.
133 Alc. Quite so.
133 Soc. And if ignorant of others’ affairs, he will be ignorant also of the affairs of states.
133 Alc. He must be.
133 Soc. Then such a man can never be a statesman.
133 Alc. No, indeed.
133 Soc. No, nor an economist either.
134 Alc. No, indeed.
134 Soc. Nor will he know what he is doing.
134 Alc. No, I agree.

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