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895 Ath. Further, let us question and answer ourselves thus:—Supposing that the Whole of things were to unite and stand still,—as most of these thinkersE.g. Anaxagoras, who taught, originally, all things were together (ὁμοῦ); and the Eleatic School (Parmenides, etc.) asserted that the Real World (τὸ ὄν) is One and motionless; cp. Plat. Theaet. 180e. venture to maintain,—which of the motions mentioned would necessarily arise in it first? That motion, of course, which is self-moving; for it will never be shifted beforehand by another thing, since no shifting force exists in things beforehand. Therefore we shall assert that inasmuch as the self-moving motion is the starting-point of all motions and the first to arise in things at rest and to exist in things in motion, it is of necessity the most ancient and potent change of all, while the motion which is altered by another thing and itself moves others comes second.
895 Clin. Most true.
895 Ath. Now that we have come to this point in our discourse, here is a question we may answer.
895 Clin. What is it?
895 Ath. If we should see that this motion had arisen in a thing of earth or water or fire, whether separate or in combination, what condition should we say exists in such a thing?
895 Clin. What you ask me is, whether we are to speak of a thing as alive when it moves itself?
895 Ath. Yes.
895 Clin. It is alive, to be sure.
895 Ath. Well then, when we see soul in things, must we not equally agree that they are alive?
895 Clin. We must.
895 Ath. Now stop a moment, in Heaven’s name! Would you not desire to observe three points about every object?
895 Clin. What do you mean?
895 Ath. One point is the substance, one the definition of the substance, and one the name;Cp. Epistles 7, 342 A, B. and, moreover, about everything that exists there are two questions to be asked.
895 Clin. How two?
895 Ath. At one time each of us, propounding the name by itself, demands the definition; at another, propounding the definition by itself, he demands the name.

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